Brand Builder Lab
Brand Builder Lab is the podcast for marketers, entrepreneurs, creators, and leaders who want to build brands that matter. Produced by Columbia University lecturer and brand strategist Kai D. Wright, this show offers a weekly dose of creativity applied strategically with inspiration, insights, and resources. Each episode breaks down proven strategies from the Brand Builder Lab newsletter on LinkedIn, exploring topics like cult branding, creative effectiveness, storytelling, and personal branding. Explore more at BrandBuilderLab.com
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In this episode, we tell you why being safe, boring, or bland as a brand is a common mistake, and how to avoid creating a brand strategy that lacks emotional connection.
We'll discuss the following:
- Brand strategy often hides behind checklists and design elements (logos, colors, fonts) instead of creating emotional connections
- True branding is about building communities of superfans who feel something for your brand, not just recognizing your visual assets
- Many powerful brands like Mr. Beast, Kai Cenat, Steven Bartlett or Liquid Death, Skims, ELF Beauty have forgettable logos and colors but unforgettable emotional resonance
- The LAVEC method for building dynamic, meaningful brands: Lexicon, Audio, Visual, Experience, and Cultural elements
- Traditional brand elements are just "vessels for meaning" – empty containers without the emotional substance inside
- Building a brand without emotional clarity is like "owning a gorgeous car but having nowhere to go"
Whether you’re building a startup or refreshing your brand, this is your blueprint for turning an audience into a tribe.
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Welcome to Brand Builder Lab
Speaker 1Welcome back to Brand Builder Lab.
Speaker 2Great to be here.
Speaker 1This is your daily dose of creative inspiration, all designed to help you build a brand that you know really connects.
Speaker 2That really resonates, yeah.
Speaker 1So today we're digging into something. Well, it's a bit of a spicy. Take honestly.
Speaker 2Oh yeah.
Speaker 1It landed in Kai D. Wright's newsletter this past week. You know Kai brand expert. Author teaches at Columbia. Advises startups. Quite the background, right. Author teaches at.
Most Brand Strategy Sucks
Speaker 2Columbia advises startups. Quite the background. Right Definitely knows his stuff. So what's the hot take?
Speaker 1He basically put forward this idea, this claim that most brand strategy. Well, it sucks.
Speaker 2Whoa OK, Doesn't mince words Sucks how.
Speaker 1Yeah, exactly. So the newsletter argues that too many brands are kind of hiding behind checklists.
Speaker 2Checklists like branding 101 stuff.
Speaker 1Pretty much obsessing over the logo, the perfect font pairings, nailing down exact Pantone colors, building these like massive brand guideline books.
Speaker 2Okay, I see that a lot, the big binder on the shelf.
Speaker 1Right and they present that as strategy. But Kai's point is, while that feels safe and looks professional, it's often just busy work, Just checking boxes. Exactly. It fails on the big things Creating real emotional connection, getting cultural relevance, building that tribe, that loyal community.
Speaker 2Okay, it's like focusing on the paint color of the house instead of like the foundation and whether anyone actually wants to live there.
Speaker 1That's a great way to put it. The newsletter is really clear. Clear a brand is fundamentally not just the visual asset right, it's not about slapping your logo everywhere no, even if that's you know popular sometimes repetition by itself doesn't create meaning. It doesn't build loyalty that actually lasts okay.
Emotion Creates Creative Effectiveness
Speaker 2So if it's not the logo, the colors, the repetition, what is a brand according to this perspective?
Speaker 1It comes down to the emotional connection. The feeling, the feeling, yeah, that resonance, that relationship you have with a specific community. You're super fans.
Speaker 2Ah, super fans, not just casual customers.
Speaker 1No, these are the people who champion the brand, they defend it, they tell everyone about it, they feel something for it, and that feeling, that's what makes a brand powerful, unforgettable.
Speaker 2Okay, that makes sense. People connect with feelings, not just fonts.
Speaker 1And this is where it gets, I think, really fascinating. The newsletter hammers this point because the brand is that connection, that community. You don't actually need a logo, everyone recognizes instantly.
Speaker 2Okay, Controversial maybe.
Speaker 1A little, or you don't need the trendiest color palette or some super unique font. Those are just tools.
Speaker 2Tools in the toolbox. Useful maybe, but not the whole project.
Speaker 1Exactly. They aren't the essence of the brand itself.
Speaker 2So give us some examples. The newsletter mentioned who embodies this?
Speaker 1OK, so think about names like Kai Cenat, Joe Rogan, Steven Bartlett, Mr Beast, huge personal brands.
Speaker 2Right massive reach, Very distinct presences.
Speaker 1Or product brands like Liquid Death, Skims, Savage X Fenty, Gymshark, ELF Beauty, right. Even like OpenAI's ChatGPT. These are all super potent brands right now.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah, definitely recognizable names, and well vibes, right vibes. Definitely recognizable names, and well vibes.
Speaker 1Right vibes. Now here's the challenge the newsletter throws out. Try right now, just for a second, sketching the logos for all of them from memory.
Speaker 2Uh-oh, okay, let me think, mr Beast. I know the energy the colors may be, but the precise logo?
Speaker 1Hmm.
Speaker 2With the death. Yeah, the can Skims. Not sure I could draw the logo perfectly.
Speaker 1Exactly, or could you name their specific Pantone colors, their main typeface?
Speaker 2Probably not for most of them, no, and I follow this stuff.
Speaker 1And see that difficulty isn't a failure of the brand. It's the whole point the newsletter's making.
Speaker 2Ah, okay, so what can I do?
Speaker 1You can probably tell me how they make you feel, or what they seem to stand for, or what kind of community follows them.
Speaker 2Yeah, absolutely, Mr Beast. Is generosity and spectacle... generosity and spectacle? Liquid death is rebellious, anti-corporate. Maybe. Skims is about inclusivity, comfort.
What Makes a Powerful Brand
Speaker 1Right that understanding the emotional, the cultural, the community part, that's way stronger in your mind than recalling the exact shape of their logo.
Speaker 2So the visual identity stuff, the design consistency, it's secondary.
Speaker 1According to this view. Yeah, In today's world, especially online, that rigid design consistency is more of a tactic. It helps you look buttoned up, professional maybe.
Speaker 2But it's not the strategy itself.
Speaker 1No, the real strategy, the core engine is building that emotional connection, that community vibe. The newsletter contrasts this with. You know, big companies stuck in endless meetings about creative effectiveness.
Speaker 2Tweaking pixels while the world moves on.
Speaker 1Yeah, while creators and newer brands are out there building real connections, like at the speed of culture, they're dynamic.
Speaker 2Okay, so this demands a pretty big shift in thinking for anyone building a brand.
Speaker 1Totally. If you want to win today, you've got to stop asking only the safe questions about design specs.
Speaker 2Like should we use blue or green?
Speaker 1Right. That's not where the leverage is. The better questions. The essential ones are who is my absolute core community, my people?
Speaker 2Who are we really serving?
Speaker 1Exactly what do they truly want, what are their dreams, their struggles and this is key how do we make them feel seen, heard, empowered?
Speaker 2Empowerment that feels important.
Speaker 1That's where the newsletter says the exponential value lives. It's in serving those deeper needs, not just selling a nicely designed product.
Speaker 2Okay. So how do you actually do that? Is there a method?
The LAVEC Method Explained
Speaker 1Well, this is where Kai introduces his framework. It's called the LAVEC method LAVEC.
Speaker 2LAVEC Okay.
Speaker 1It's designed to kind of reset the conversation, move away from static assets, focus on the dynamic stuff that helps brands grow fast. Each letter stands for something.
Speaker 2Break it down for us L.
Speaker 1L is for lexicon triggers. Think unique phrases, words, maybe inside jokes that instantly signal your brand or community.
Speaker 2Like a secret handshake, but with words.
Speaker 1Kind of. It's more than a tagline. It's the language of belonging. Think how certain streamers have catchphrases their fans use constantly.
Speaker 2Ah yeah, creates that in-group feel Okay A.
Speaker 1A is audio cues. What does your brand sound like? Consistently.
Speaker 2Not just a jingle.
Speaker 1Could be a jingle, but it's broader Soundscapes, a specific voice, energy, the type of music used, things you hear and immediately think of the brand.
Speaker 2Like the Netflix Tatum sound maybe.
Speaker 1Or, yeah, rogan's theme, mr Beast's editing sound Okay, it makes sense. V. V is visual stimuli. Now, visuals are still in here, obviously, but it's not just the logo, it's the overall visual style, the aesthetic DNA.
Speaker 2So you recognize it even without the logo slapped on it.
Speaker 1Exactly, think Skims again, that consistent style in their photography minimalist, body, positive, you know it's skims. Or Mr Beast's thumbnail style bright, high energy. It's the style, the visual language.
Speaker 2Got it, not just the logo file, okay, e.
Speaker 1E is for experienced drivers. What behaviors or rituals are tied to your brand? How does engaging with you feel? What actions does it inspire in the community?
Speaker 2So like the experience of doing a challenge from Gymshark or the buzz around a new Mr Beast video drop.
Speaker 1Precisely, or even just choosing liquid death at the store as a statement. The experience itself is part of the brand.
Speaker 2Okay, interesting, and last one C.
Speaker 1C is cultural connections. How does your brand empower people or communities? How does it tap into, reflect or maybe even shape culture?
Speaker 2Ah, the bigger picture stuff.
Speaker 1Yeah, building belonging, shared purpose. Think Savage x Fenty, using their shows to champion diversity, pushing culture forward.
Speaker 2Right, challenging norms. Skims does that too, focusing on inclusion. They're not just selling underwear, they're part of a conversation.
Speaker 1Exactly, they connect on a cultural level.
Speaker 2So L-E-V-E-C Lexicon. Audio visual experience cultural.
Speaker 1That's it, and the newsletter argues these five things are the real drivers of brand power. Now, not the 100-page guideline doc.
Speaker 2Not the internal brand book nobody reads.
Speaker 1Nope, not the perfectly crafted value props or the endless creative rules from corporate.
Speaker 2So what are those traditional things then? Useless.
Speaker 1Not useless, but the newsletter calls them vessels for meaning. They're containers, Okay, but if there's no real meaning inside, no feeling, no community, no empowerment, then the container is just empty. Pretty maybe, but empty.
Brand as a Journey, Not a Vehicle
Speaker 2I get it. You can have the fanciest bottle, but if there's nothing good inside, who cares?
Speaker 1exactly which leads to this analogy they use, which I thought was brilliant lay it on me trying to build a brand just focusing on the static stuff, the visuals, the rules, without that emotional clarity, without knowing your community's destination. It's like owning a gorgeous car but having absolutely nowhere to go huh, just sitting there polishing it. Right, Polishing the crown, checking the tire pressure, but you're parked Wasting gas, metaphorically Hoping. Someone walks by and says nice car, while they're actually heading somewhere meaningful.
Speaker 2Well, the other brands, the ones built on feeling and community.
Speaker 1They have a destination, usually something about empowerment, belonging, a shared attitude. They've got their community, the passengers, excited for the journey because it means something to them.
Speaker 2And the ride itself. The experience is so good, people don't want it to end. It's about the shared adventure.
Speaker 1Exactly, not just the vehicle.
Speaker 2Wow, that definitely forces you to rethink things.
Speaker 1Right. So the big takeaway here for you listening, whether you're building a startup, marketing a big company, crafting your personal brand.
Speaker 2What's the bottom line?
Speaker 1It's shifting your focus dramatically. Stop obsessing only over the static assets the logo, police, the font, debates, the guideline, enforcement.
Speaker 2And start focusing where.
Speaker 1Start putting your real energy into building dynamic emotional connections, empowering your community using those LAVC principles lexicon, audio visuals, experience, culture as your guide.
Speaker 2So ask yourself are you spending all your time just polishing the car, perfecting the visuals?
Speaker 1Or are you genuinely mapping out the emotional journey, understanding who wants to come along and using all the tools, the sounds, the words, the style, the experiences, the cultural hooks to make that journey amazing?
Speaker 2It's a different set of questions.
Speaker 1Totally, which leads to this final thought, something to chew on. If your brand strategy isn't really grounded in feelings, in community, in empowerment, are you actually building a brand or are you just collecting design assets, organizing files?
Speaker 2That's a sharp question, hits home.
Speaker 1Definitely something to think about Now if you want more insights like this, more practical stuff to help build brands people feel.
Speaker 2You should definitely subscribe to the Brand Builder Lab weekly newsletter on LinkedIn. It's fantastic for brand builders, creators, business leaders, anyone in this space.
Speaker 1Absolutely. And to really go deep on this whole approach, how fast growing brands use emotion? Check out Kai D Wright's book Follow the Feeling: Brand Building in a Noisy World.
Speaker 2Yeah, it really breaks down how to focus on what matters, the feelings. Super practical whether you're just starting out or running a huge brand.
Speaker 1Couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2Well, thanks for tuning in to Brand Builder Lab.
Speaker 1Now go out there and build something. People can't help but feel something for.
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